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		<title>By: samjshah</title>
		<link>http://samjshah.com/2009/04/14/composition-of-functions-and-their-inverses/#comment-19879</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 23:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for linking to that worksheet! I am going to steal it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for linking to that worksheet! I am going to steal it!</p>
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		<title>By: jpaulwolf</title>
		<link>http://samjshah.com/2009/04/14/composition-of-functions-and-their-inverses/#comment-19390</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 22:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back again on this same topic!  So I sort of took the same track this time, but I noticed that when I did it last year, I was losing kids because I was lecturing about it a little too much.  

So I put all the big information into a pretty bare-bones worksheet, and threw &#039;em a few curveballs.  No one noticed that the inverse of x^2 only spits out half the original&#039;s graph, so we&#039;ll have to talk about that tomorrow, but they were getting pretty angry that I wouldn&#039;t just flat-out tell them how to find the inverse of 1/x, which is always fun.

Again, it&#039;s pretty bare-bones, but it beat the hell out of lecturing this stuff, which can be a slog:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1klX05TDTbQN2VhYjQ0YzItOGM0MC00NGVlLTgxYzgtOWI5ZDQyNDVjNzBi]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back again on this same topic!  So I sort of took the same track this time, but I noticed that when I did it last year, I was losing kids because I was lecturing about it a little too much.  </p>
<p>So I put all the big information into a pretty bare-bones worksheet, and threw &#8216;em a few curveballs.  No one noticed that the inverse of x^2 only spits out half the original&#8217;s graph, so we&#8217;ll have to talk about that tomorrow, but they were getting pretty angry that I wouldn&#8217;t just flat-out tell them how to find the inverse of 1/x, which is always fun.</p>
<p>Again, it&#8217;s pretty bare-bones, but it beat the hell out of lecturing this stuff, which can be a slog:<br />
<a href="https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1klX05TDTbQN2VhYjQ0YzItOGM0MC00NGVlLTgxYzgtOWI5ZDQyNDVjNzBi" rel="nofollow">https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1klX05TDTbQN2VhYjQ0YzItOGM0MC00NGVlLTgxYzgtOWI5ZDQyNDVjNzBi</a></p>
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		<title>By: samjshah</title>
		<link>http://samjshah.com/2009/04/14/composition-of-functions-and-their-inverses/#comment-5664</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 10:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love that! &quot;Blew up how I teach this&quot;! Beautiful phrase. I like the idea of the machine thing. I forgot to do that this year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that! &#8220;Blew up how I teach this&#8221;! Beautiful phrase. I like the idea of the machine thing. I forgot to do that this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Pwolf</title>
		<link>http://samjshah.com/2009/04/14/composition-of-functions-and-their-inverses/#comment-5623</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 22:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sam, 

This approach totally blew up how I teach this, which I&#039;m actually doing this week.

I actually included the step-by-step idea with composition of functions, and today I introduced y = x as the identity function, whose steps only include &quot;do nothing.&quot;

When doing the step listing idea this year, I threw out the usual &quot;think of a function as a machine, think of compositions as stringing machines together.&quot;  Halfway through class a student asked to come to the board with their own explanation, and showed the class the machine thing.  

I&#039;m also augmenting this approach by having the students do rules and inverses as listed steps first.

Thanks so much for this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, </p>
<p>This approach totally blew up how I teach this, which I&#8217;m actually doing this week.</p>
<p>I actually included the step-by-step idea with composition of functions, and today I introduced y = x as the identity function, whose steps only include &#8220;do nothing.&#8221;</p>
<p>When doing the step listing idea this year, I threw out the usual &#8220;think of a function as a machine, think of compositions as stringing machines together.&#8221;  Halfway through class a student asked to come to the board with their own explanation, and showed the class the machine thing.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also augmenting this approach by having the students do rules and inverses as listed steps first.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://samjshah.com/2009/04/14/composition-of-functions-and-their-inverses/#comment-2959</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, I used your idea today in class and saw the switch flip from bewilderment to confident understanding in kid after kid. Great stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I used your idea today in class and saw the switch flip from bewilderment to confident understanding in kid after kid. Great stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: samjshah</title>
		<link>http://samjshah.com/2009/04/14/composition-of-functions-and-their-inverses/#comment-2385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[samjshah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 00:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi @J.P.

Thanks for your comment. We definitely talk about 1 to 1 functions -- and my students know that they can&#039;t find f^{-1} if f(x)=x^2. I harp on this point a lot!

I just wanted to highlight what&#039;s going on for simple 1 to 1 functions. 

Best,
Sam]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi @J.P.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. We definitely talk about 1 to 1 functions &#8212; and my students know that they can&#8217;t find f^{-1} if f(x)=x^2. I harp on this point a lot!</p>
<p>I just wanted to highlight what&#8217;s going on for simple 1 to 1 functions. </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Sam</p>
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		<title>By: J.P. McCarthy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.P. McCarthy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 23:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice blog, this post however is very flawed. The inverse of f is only defined as a function for injective (1-1) functions. For example f(x)=sin(x) is a function which has for example 0s at the k\pi for k\in\Z.

Now &quot;f^{-1}(x)&quot; is defined as a multi-valued mapping.

f^{-1}(x)={y:f(y)=x}

Indeed f^{-1}(0)=k\pi. So let x=0
f(x)=0 and f^{-1}(f(x))=k\pi; NOT 0.

Now f(f^{-1}(0))=0. 

f(f^{-1}(x)=x but f^{-1}(f(x)) not necessarily x.

A simpler example, f(x)=x^2:

f(f^{-1}(1)=1 but f^{-1}(f(x)) plus or minus 1]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice blog, this post however is very flawed. The inverse of f is only defined as a function for injective (1-1) functions. For example f(x)=sin(x) is a function which has for example 0s at the k\pi for k\in\Z.</p>
<p>Now &#8220;f^{-1}(x)&#8221; is defined as a multi-valued mapping.</p>
<p>f^{-1}(x)={y:f(y)=x}</p>
<p>Indeed f^{-1}(0)=k\pi. So let x=0<br />
f(x)=0 and f^{-1}(f(x))=k\pi; NOT 0.</p>
<p>Now f(f^{-1}(0))=0. </p>
<p>f(f^{-1}(x)=x but f^{-1}(f(x)) not necessarily x.</p>
<p>A simpler example, f(x)=x^2:</p>
<p>f(f^{-1}(1)=1 but f^{-1}(f(x)) plus or minus 1</p>
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		<title>By: vlorbik</title>
		<link>http://samjshah.com/2009/04/14/composition-of-functions-and-their-inverses/#comment-930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vlorbik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lots of good stuff here lately.

i call &quot;invert each step and
reverse the order&quot; the
&quot;shoes and socks&quot; theorem.
i forget where i learned to do so.
it appears to be &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;rls=en-us&amp;q=shoes+and+socks+theorem&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;well-known&lt;/A&gt;.

$latex (f\circ g)^{-1} = g^{-1} \circ f^{-1}$.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lots of good stuff here lately.</p>
<p>i call &#8220;invert each step and<br />
reverse the order&#8221; the<br />
&#8220;shoes and socks&#8221; theorem.<br />
i forget where i learned to do so.<br />
it appears to be <a HREF="http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;rls=en-us&amp;q=shoes+and+socks+theorem&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8" rel="nofollow">well-known</a>.</p>
<p><img src='http://s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=%28f%5Ccirc+g%29%5E%7B-1%7D+%3D+g%5E%7B-1%7D+%5Ccirc+f%5E%7B-1%7D&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=4e4e4e&amp;s=0' alt='(f&#92;circ g)^{-1} = g^{-1} &#92;circ f^{-1}' title='(f&#92;circ g)^{-1} = g^{-1} &#92;circ f^{-1}' class='latex' />.</p>
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		<title>By: David Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Cox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sam, you nailed it on this one.  As I was reading, I kept thinking of the present digression...I&#039;m glad you mentioned it.  This concept really hit home for me when I learned that you can exchange x and y and just solve for y to find the inverse function (which sticks with the solving for x idea).  Nice work, thanks for sharing it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, you nailed it on this one.  As I was reading, I kept thinking of the present digression&#8230;I&#8217;m glad you mentioned it.  This concept really hit home for me when I learned that you can exchange x and y and just solve for y to find the inverse function (which sticks with the solving for x idea).  Nice work, thanks for sharing it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Petersen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I teach about &quot;function machines.&quot;  There is a slot for an input (domain) and a chute (range) for an output.  We start with the &quot;x^2 Machine.&quot;  You can put numbers in and it&#039;ll spit out that number squared.  &quot;Some things are not in the domain of this function...me for example.  If I walk into the machine, it doesn&#039;t know how to do Petersen Squared (although that would make a cool superhero team).&quot;

We then talk about all the other function operations as manipulations of these machines.  Composing functions is rigging them so that the chute from one goes right into the slot of another.  Inverse functions are hitting the &quot;reverse&quot; button on them.  So, with those concepts in mind, we have two duplicate machines connected to one another where the chutes (or slots, depending on which order you&#039;re doing) are glued in the middle and one of them runs in reverse.

For something like your example, we might break down the original function into composite functions and draw the machine connection diagram.

I think the visualization hits home with some of the kids.  I like your analytic view, too, though.  The pattern is easily seen with the words/steps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I teach about &#8220;function machines.&#8221;  There is a slot for an input (domain) and a chute (range) for an output.  We start with the &#8220;x^2 Machine.&#8221;  You can put numbers in and it&#8217;ll spit out that number squared.  &#8220;Some things are not in the domain of this function&#8230;me for example.  If I walk into the machine, it doesn&#8217;t know how to do Petersen Squared (although that would make a cool superhero team).&#8221;</p>
<p>We then talk about all the other function operations as manipulations of these machines.  Composing functions is rigging them so that the chute from one goes right into the slot of another.  Inverse functions are hitting the &#8220;reverse&#8221; button on them.  So, with those concepts in mind, we have two duplicate machines connected to one another where the chutes (or slots, depending on which order you&#8217;re doing) are glued in the middle and one of them runs in reverse.</p>
<p>For something like your example, we might break down the original function into composite functions and draw the machine connection diagram.</p>
<p>I think the visualization hits home with some of the kids.  I like your analytic view, too, though.  The pattern is easily seen with the words/steps.</p>
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